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7 months 1 week ago - 7 months 1 week ago #1 by Brent Graham
It was a cracking weekend for followers of the forum with winners flowing and the Newsletter main play also arrived with the Lions and the Sharks delivering a 2/1 double

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I did ok on the weekend but gave some profits back on the Pumas so it was a disappointing end to the weekend for me.

The Rugby Champs returns this weekend and handicaps have been fairly stable

South Africa -7.5 (there is -6.5) v New Zealand
Argentina -7.5 v Australia

The Currie Cup is nearing the playoffs with only 2 rounds to go and here are my projected handicaps

The Bulls and Lions have booked their spots in the last 4, the Sharks are 1 win away
The Cheetahs and Pumas are both on 24 points (2 points behind the Sharks) and meet in the final round
Watch out for the introduction of URC players to get them some game time - I am basing handicaps on current form

Griquas +8.5 v Cheetahs
Bulls -7.5 v Lions (believe this is being played in Midrand)
Sharks -32.5 v Griffons
WP -4.5 v Pumas

Which of my Currie Cup Caps are you hoping the bookies follow?

Have a good week

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7 months 1 week ago #2 by Couch Critic
All things being equal I would go to the well again (in fact I would run there) to take the Lions to get the job done over the Bulls.

BUT this week team news will be crucial. The Sharks are bringing their URC players back this week and I have heard that it is the case for the Stormers as well. On this news / tactic I have a concern that the Bulls might also look to flex their considerabe squad power...

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7 months 1 week ago #3 by Brent Graham
Agree team news will be crucial and I wonder if bookies will hold back on pricing up a bit.

Another strange thing that speaks to the unpredictability of the CC is that I have not seen any outright betting all season

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7 months 1 week ago #4 by Pablo
Guess which competition is back this week ...

Exactly, the always interesting Pro D2 with his trolling teams and no brainer results :) :)
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7 months 1 week ago #5 by Kirky

Pablo wrote: Guess which competition is back this week ...

Exactly, the always interesting Pro D2 with his trolling teams and no brainer results :) :)

And next week it's Pro14's turn, also with some no-brainers :whistle:

Two weeks after that URC :woohoo: :beer

Brent, are you going to run another cash pool for URC this year ?

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7 months 1 week ago #6 by Sharkster
Have been 1 step forward 1 step back with the NPC

I will go again this week. So far I have taken hawkes bay +5 and Waikato +8.

I like the idea of getting into another league in the prod2 but with the urc and Prem starting I'm not sure I have enough time for another league. Although I know they play some games on Thursdays.

@pablo which do you prefer betting on top14 or prod2?
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7 months 1 week ago #7 by Dfurlong1986
Nice midweek game for us to get stuck in to with Canterbury hawkes bay. Anyone have any opinions on this. Hanricks insight on the npc on the show is always helpful. Missed it on last weeks show. I can’t get a total points line yet but the weather forecast looks good in Christchurch

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7 months 1 week ago #8 by Pablo

Sharkster wrote: Have been 1 step forward 1 step back with the NPC

I will go again this week. So far I have taken hawkes bay +5 and Waikato +8.

I like the idea of getting into another league in the prod2 but with the urc and Prem starting I'm not sure I have enough time for another league. Although I know they play some games on Thursdays.

@pablo which do you prefer betting on top14 or prod2?


Agree on Waikato (+7 here) and I also like Taranaki -10.5, I think they should be 15-17 points favourites against Otago (usually underperforms away from Dunedin)

I have to refresh my stats because I didn´t actualise it since september 2022 but in the period 2016-2022 (I guess 2022-2024 is more of the same):

Top 14: 610 bets / 16.72% yield / +223u profit
Pro D2: 280 bets / 14.76% yield / +85u profit

Clearly is three times more profitable for me the Top14, Pro D2 is more funny to watch but limits lower as well.
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7 months 1 week ago #9 by Gareth75
Apologies if this question shouldn’t be posted here. Just wondering if any of your likeminded people have created your own rugby betting data model ? Thinking of trying to create one & Apart from home & away final score data, weather not sure what other data would be beneficial? Does creating a data model work .? I’ve started reading about ELO but at the moment it’s blowing my mind Thanks

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7 months 1 week ago #10 by Brent Graham
Hi Gareth,

A good question but will probably get lost in the rugby thread - my suggestion is that you open a new thread on this topic - might be something we can do a show about sometime as well

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7 months 1 week ago #11 by Brent Graham
Currie Cup lines are out at (WSB)

Griquas +8.5 (+10.5) v Cheetahs
Bulls -7.5 (-3.5) v Lions
Sharks -32.5 (-33.5) v Griffons
WP -4.5 (+3.5) v Pumas

I am going to back WP +3.5 and on the board as if their URC players come back the line will shift
Also Pumas haven't been great lately

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7 months 1 week ago #12 by Brent Graham
Money for the AB's after Bok team selection with no RG or Eben

Boks now -5.5 from -7.5

Other game stable and have seen -6.5 Argentina and +8.5 Aus

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7 months 1 week ago #13 by southpaw
Over 54.5 @ 5/6 canterbury v hawkes bay.

Seen 57.5 in places, conditions look good, and I’m on holiday so a rare midweek bet allowed.

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7 months 1 week ago #14 by Jameson
Gone Hawkes Bay +0.5 at half time - they are clearly the better side and will be pissed off its 13 all.
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7 months 1 week ago #15 by Sharkster

Sharkster wrote: Have been 1 step forward 1 step back with the NPC

I will go again this week. So far I have taken hawkes bay +5 and Waikato +8.

I like the idea of getting into another league in the prod2 but with the urc and Prem starting I'm not sure I have enough time for another league. Although I know they play some games on Thursdays.

@pablo which do you prefer betting on top14 or prod2?


I'm going to add Southland +9.5 to this. I had it a 5 point cap when I looked at it earlier in the week.

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7 months 6 days ago #16 by GeeGee
Lions picked very strong team. Should start fav.

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7 months 6 days ago #17 by southpaw
Brive over 25.5 @ 5/6

At risk of being on holiday becoming costly, i thought this looked very low.

Pablo hit me with some confidence please!

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7 months 6 days ago - 7 months 6 days ago #18 by Pablo

southpaw wrote: Brive over 25.5 @ 5/6

At risk of being on holiday becoming costly, i thought this looked very low.

Pablo hit me with some confidence please!


Agree with the overs here, strong team picked by Brive. Also Oyonnax strong (no Ruru and Stark though).

Good weather It means to me overs, I don't have team totals so I go with o45 @1.813 just for 1u.

PD: I also add 1u to Oyonnax +8.5 @1.80. Nice compo both teams and I think this match should be in losing bonus point area, first round so just 1u.
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7 months 6 days ago #19 by Couch Critic

GeeGee wrote: Lions picked very strong team. Should start fav.


WSB still offering 12/10 in SA and I'm balls deep into the Lions!

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7 months 6 days ago #20 by Brent Graham
The Handicap live at 21h00 - The Oracle and I talking Rugby Champs and Currie Cup

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7 months 6 days ago #21 by southpaw
Is Brive home ground located in another country ?? France been baking in sun last 3 months and their pitch looks like January pitch not end August. Shocker and the ht score reflects surface.

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7 months 6 days ago #22 by Pablo
This is the Pro D2 at its bets haha

Even losing I enjoy this shit like a pig in a pigsty.

Like a spanish coach said: "This is football, daddy"

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7 months 6 days ago #23 by markhyland13
Samoa v Tonga

Samoa boast the recent home H2Hs but I feel there's value in fading Samoa here tomorrow morning. They were poor in their opener vs Fiji who are admittingly a stronger team than Tonga.

Tonga ring the changes and feel they can match up here. See bookies have Samoa -13 points with the handicap. These early fixtures can be hard to call so will play small units.

Instead of playing the line, I'll take on Samoa under 33.5 total points scored @ 1.90.

will also nibble half unit on Tonga to win @ 4/1
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7 months 5 days ago #24 by Brent Graham
The 1st of the weekends previews is up

South Africa v New Zealand

Neither team by more than 7 at 1.38/1 and a nibble on the draw at 25/1

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7 months 5 days ago #25 by Jameson
Got in on Tonga over 9.5 at half time so now re-investing on Southland +9.5 ! :-o

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7 months 5 days ago #26 by Kirky
I like what Oracle said about Argentina winning this Championship.

After getting the win in NZ, it's theirs to lose.
Going to depend on whether they can beat us at home (Argentina), and if we send the B's. Well..

So I've put a unit at all 3 of my books, at around about 21.00 ea.
And will see what H/C goes to after this weekend. But for me, I love that 21 odds.
I really like the call.:woohoo: :beer

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7 months 5 days ago #27 by markhyland13
Nice!

I thought my bet was dead in the water on the Samoa point total but hung in there with 6 minutes to go. Tonga just v poor in first 40! onwards

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7 months 5 days ago #28 by Brent Graham
All Currie Cup plays will be posted here

Over 62.5 in Griquas v Cheetahs

Argentina v Australia Preview

Main bet to follow but for now either team by 7 or less at 29/20

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7 months 5 days ago #29 by southpaw

Brent Graham wrote: All Currie Cup plays will be posted here

Over 62.5 in Griquas v Cheetahs

Argentina v Australia Preview

Main bet to follow but for now either team by 7 or less at 29/20


Have to forget about that French game last night with some Currie cup action.

See there is 59.5 available in Uk so I’m joining -

Griquas cheetahs over 59.5 @ 10/11

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7 months 5 days ago #30 by Mondo86
WP to win @ 8/10

Very strong team named, Pumas been average this year - WP will end the season on a strong note in a sunny Stellenbosch.

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7 months 5 days ago #31 by markhyland13
SA v NZ

Simply Liking ABs +7 on the handicap here. Perfect conditions forecast so hopefully be a cracker! My model predicting SA 31 - 32 NZ.

ARG v AUS

Horrible weather forecast here with heavy rain in Buenos Aires and high winds. Was looking at the unders here as a result but predicting ARG 25 - 28 AUS so will leave the totals. Think the draw comes in to play here if this becomes an arm wrestle and odds of 25/1 , I cannot refuse.

Tryscorer Double :

Caleb Clarke & Chocobares @ 12/1

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7 months 5 days ago #32 by Pablo

Mondo86 wrote: WP to win @ 8/10

Very strong team named, Pumas been average this year - WP will end the season on a strong note in a sunny Stellenbosch.


Agree here, managed to get @1.74 in exchanges
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7 months 5 days ago #33 by Chiefie

southpaw wrote:

Brent Graham wrote: All Currie Cup plays will be posted here

Over 62.5 in Griquas v Cheetahs

Argentina v Australia Preview

Main bet to follow but for now either team by 7 or less at 29/20


Have to forget about that French game last night with some Currie cup action.

See there is 59.5 available in Uk so I’m joining -

Griquas cheetahs over 59.5 @ 10/11


This is kak. Butchering tries.

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7 months 5 days ago #34 by Chiefie

Chiefie wrote:

southpaw wrote:

Brent Graham wrote: All Currie Cup plays will be posted here

Over 62.5 in Griquas v Cheetahs

Argentina v Australia Preview

Main bet to follow but for now either team by 7 or less at 29/20


Have to forget about that French game last night with some Currie cup action.

See there is 59.5 available in Uk so I’m joining -

Griquas cheetahs over 59.5 @ 10/11


This is kak. Butchering tries.


75 points. Easy. Just needed a word from Chiefie.

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7 months 5 days ago #35 by southpaw

Chiefie wrote:

Chiefie wrote:

southpaw wrote:

Brent Graham wrote: All Currie Cup plays will be posted here

Over 62.5 in Griquas v Cheetahs

Argentina v Australia Preview

Main bet to follow but for now either team by 7 or less at 29/20


Have to forget about that French game last night with some Currie cup action.

See there is 59.5 available in Uk so I’m joining -

Griquas cheetahs over 59.5 @ 10/11


This is kak. Butchering tries.


75 points. Easy. Just needed a word from Chiefie.


Geez was sweating buckets when only 20-10 after 50 odd minutes, was overexposed after going bigger than usual thanks to that prod2 shocker so that was a huge relief when game just sparked to life.

Betting accounts looking far healthier and now salivating over the weekend rugby to come. May be a big overs play coming for me in joburg tomorrow…

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7 months 5 days ago #36 by southpaw
Andrew Brace yellow card stats suggest some value in this -

A yellow for both sides @ 13/2

Boks and all blacks fired up for this and feel Brace will enjoy putting himself in the limelight as normal. Most yellows per game in 2023 domstic games in URC.

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7 months 5 days ago #37 by Brent Graham

Couch Critic wrote:

GeeGee wrote: Lions picked very strong team. Should start fav.


WSB still offering 12/10 in SA and I'm balls deep into the Lions!


Nicely played gents

Must say that looked a great atmosphere - far better than an Ellis Park or even Loftus for a Currie Cup game

Going to wait for points lines before making call on Sharks v Griffons

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7 months 5 days ago #38 by southpaw
Boks v NZ over 49.5 pts @ 17/20

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7 months 4 days ago - 7 months 4 days ago #39 by Jameson
Gone over 49.5 on Tasman games about to start too.

EDIT: Oh dear, chucking it down .......
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7 months 4 days ago #40 by catsmug
The boks by 10÷ for me.

There's never been a better time than now to break their backs. Unlike last year we need to repeat the dose in Cape Town and that will cause a Kiwi meltdown

As you go through life it’s a long, long road. There’ll be joys and sorrows too

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7 months 4 days ago #41 by Pablo
Line in WP-Pumas dropped from 61.5 to 52.5 in asia, ¿Did I miss something here?

Weather looks beautiful tomorrow in Stellenbosch and that line at 52.5 seems low.

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7 months 4 days ago #42 by Pablo

Pablo wrote: Line in WP-Pumas dropped from 61.5 to 52.5 in asia, ¿Did I miss something here?

Weather looks beautiful tomorrow in Stellenbosch and that line at 52.5 seems low.


Some very fast punters and line now in 57.5 so forget what I said ...

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7 months 4 days ago #43 by Jameson
Heartbreak hotel in the Tasman game - 1pt short of overs. BOP cost me with no lineout and not much more of a scrum.

Arse.

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7 months 4 days ago #44 by Brent Graham
Currie Cup Play Update

Over 70.5 in Durban, humidity is low and hopefully the Griffons can score a couple as well

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7 months 4 days ago #45 by Jameson

Pablo wrote:

Pablo wrote: Line in WP-Pumas dropped from 61.5 to 52.5 in asia, ¿Did I miss something here?

Weather looks beautiful tomorrow in Stellenbosch and that line at 52.5 seems low.


Some very fast punters and line now in 57.5 so forget what I said ...


There is no total pts market at Bet365 UK - blank screen!

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7 months 4 days ago #46 by Mondo86
All Blacks over 10.5 HT

Game will be frenetic
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7 months 4 days ago #47 by Jameson
That last Griffon last minute try saved my bacon massively! Was on over 12.5 Griffon points and the missed conversion to win the bet in the 1st half plus the 2 disallowed tries meant that the TV was about to get thrown through the window ...... The TV is relieved as much as I am.

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7 months 4 days ago #48 by Brad Breath

Mondo86 wrote: All Blacks over 10.5 HT

Game will be frenetic


Have also taken this bet.
Took both ABs +8.5 and smalls ABs win @ 3.75 earlier in the week also.

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7 months 4 days ago #49 by Brent Graham
Overs cruises in Durban

I have added an FTS and LTS pick to the preview but staying out of points until the break

Perenera FTS 22/1
Marx LTS 12/1

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7 months 4 days ago #50 by Roger Rabbit
Nz over 22.5 at evens with Sunbet

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